2018 Kia Stinger v NEW 2018 Holden Commodore VXR (Opel Insignia) comparison

Same category Autos (109174):
Popular videos:
You've seen us pit the new Kia Stinger against the now-retired VF Commodore, so how does the new European-imported Commodore VXR go against the turbocharged V6 Stinger? Paul Maric finds out.
FULL STORY: https://www.caradvice.com.au/625019/2018-kia-stinger-330si-v-holden-commodore-vxr-comparison
CarAdvice.com is where Australians turn to for the most comprehensive independent reviews of new cars.
Our videos are created by expert and unbiased journalists who are passionate about their work. We have fun making these videos and we hope you enjoy them too.
We welcome the opportunity to answer your questions and encourage discussion. Don’t hesitate to ask us a question in the comments section.
Subscribe to CarAdvice for your regular fix of automotive news, reviews and entertainment.

β€” https://facebook.com/CarAdvice
β€” https://twitter.com/car_advice
β€” https://plus.google.com/ caradvice
β€” https://instagram.com/caradvice
Get the latest news, reviews and videos fast-tracked to your inbox by registering for 'The Shortcut' here: http://www.caradvice.com.au/theshortcut/subscribe/
https://www.caradvice.com.au/625019/2018-kia-stinger-330si-v-holden-commodore-vxr-comparison/?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=YT_DESC - Read the article here.
Tags:  australia  car  caradvicecomau  comparison  2018  kia  stinger  v  new  2018  holden  commodore  vxr  (opel  insignia)  comparison 

Number of Views: 33,419
Number of Likes: 308
Category: Autos
Caption: The last time we were here we watch the . chaos stinger deliver a surprising blow . to the ozzy muscle-car we call our own . but if you fast forward a few months . things have changed for the commodore . it's lost two cylinders gained or wheel . drive and been showered in features but . is it the performance car that its . predecessor was well a lot of you don't . think so . [music]. so this is the commodore vxr the ss . commodore replacement a lot of you . aren't sold on the styling but i can . tell you that in person it actually . looks pretty good under the bonnet here . is a 3. 6 liter naturally aspirated v6 . engine 235 kilowatts of power 381 newton . meters of torque 9 speed automatic . well down on the figures that we had . from the last generation ls3 v8 but . let's look at some of the styling . highlights led matrix headlights these . things are awesome at night time we . round the side here 20 inch alloy wheels . that fill that wheel guard nicely plus . giant brembo brakes if you come around . to the back you've got this extended . boot lip spoiler that sits out in the . vxr plus these fantastic led lights on . the back to make this thing stand out at . night. now terms of the dimensions this is . smaller than the last commodore you've . got five liters less boot space and also . less leg and headroom in the back but. overall in terms of dimensions it is . still a really big car so what about the . stinger it also divides opinion but i . reckon it looks fantastic in this color . and we also bought this car this is a . car that care advice ions we've done . over 10,000 kilometers in it and it is a . certified missile under that bonnet is a . 3. 3 litre twin-turbocharged v6 272 . kilowatts of power but we've had it on a . dyno and it makes 240 at the wheels that . is insane little over 320 horsepower . just like last time we're going to put . these cars through a grueling set of . tests to figure out which is the best . performance car so these are going to . kick off with 0 to 100 kilometers an . hour 100 to 0 and quorum are those tests . are designed to determine which car goes . fastest in a straight line and which car . stops quickest in a straight line next . up is our slalom it's a challenging . course that requires horsepower handling. and also some prowess behind the wheel. we'll figure out their which car is . quickest through some bends and also . around a set of hair pins . final test i've come up with is the big . circle now this is a 25 meter radius . circle and it's designed to upset these . cars will tip it in keep applying . throttle and figure out which car starts . losing traction first the car with the . most lateral g's wins the test . [music]. right time to performance test the . stinger now this is different to our . last test because we own this sting up . this hasn't been a press car some of . your a bit dubious about press car . having a special tooth and just to make . sure there's nothing funny going on all . of these gopros are recording at the . same time we've got a v box there so . we're set up and ready to go and pop . that into sport switch off stability . control because that's how you engage. launch control so you can see there it's . coming up saying it's disabled pop that . into drive that is all good to go so . hard on the brake hard on the throttle . launch control ready sidestep that . little wheel slip there . we are away. it's absolutely moving . absolutely moving . there is a quarter-mile it's not a look . at that 4. 8 seconds there you go that is . the exact same time that we got last . time quarter-mile i'm gonna have to . extract the numbers to see how we went . there but that is looking promising okay . it is time to give this a crack in the . commodore so same story again i have the . gopro on all of these are running at the . same time so no trickery there we're . gonna pop this into vxr mode which is . its quickest mode and then i'm gonna . press traction control once because it . allows us to build the revs up a bit pop . that into drive i'm gonna build up the . revs as high as it'll go and just . sidestep the brake so let's give this a . shot it's sluggish . okay . we are moving . all right doesn't feel as quick as the . stinger to look at that 6. 2 seconds that . it's actually much slower than the . stinger but it's better than the seven . seconds that we got when we tried this . at the proving ground to start with so . that method of building up there seemed . to work well . [music]. okay time for our braking test same . story you're gonna have a gopros running . they're all in sync got a v box on we're . going to break from a little over a . hundred kilometers an hour and it will . measure how long it takes to stop from a . hundred kilometers an hour to zero and . it'll measure in seconds and meters so . obviously less seconds less meters is a. better braking time and a throttle up to . a hundred so let's give this a shot . i get to our breaking marker it was . gonna slam the brakes on and we'll see . how well it pulls up. felt good alright two point seven . seconds thirty seven point eight meters . can the commodore beat it this car is . lighter it's got an eighty set of . brembos on it and a decent set of rubber . as well so same story again i'm going to . dial this up to a little over 100 k's an . hour and we're going to slam down the . anchors and see how we go . [music]. okay . [music]. let that settle and jump on the anchors . felt good 2. 6 seconds and 36 meters that . is seriously impressive stuff so as we . expected the stinger murdered the . commodore and the straight-line run but . the commodore clawed back with. impressive breaking numbers in fact we . even clocked a 33 meter stop from 100 . kilometers an hour in later testing but . straight-line speed isn't much use if . you can't use it let's see how they . perform around our slalom . so it's time for the slalom this is a . very technical course because you're. gonna have some talk to get to that . first cone and then the car has to be . agile with a couple of hair pins as well . so you need the full package here we . know from last time where this was . quicker than the commodore the quickest. way around is with stability control and . traction control turned off makes it a. bit of a handful but it's all the more . fun i'll manually be shifting gears and . let's see how we go so load it up a bit . there drop the hammer and it's so nice . and direct alright let's pick you gotta . slow down full tuck it in nicely give it . a bit of throttle here to bring it . around. would. damn straight he doesn't understand back . onto the throttle that and that is a . time that felt really nice and tidy . [music]. [applause]. [music]. so it's time to give this a shot in the . commodore now this has a couple of . advantages so first up michelin pilot . sport tires they're super sticky . all-wheel drive that's another good . benefit as well what we're going to do . is put it into vxr mode i'm going to . switch stability control entirely off. that she gives a bit of an edge to keep . that throttle in without the system . intervening there it is i'm going to . manually shift gears so there's first . gear there and i go first to second and. just kick the throttle in and see what. happens here we go load it up a bit . [music]. brakes tip it in . i've got no gear what's going on there . [music]. it's really my gear again what's going . on here . that is so strange it's it's just . flaring it's not actually giving me any . any go there at all. yeah that's that's not good at all . while the numbers show the commodore was . quicker a fault with the gearbox held it . up from gaining another potential second . on the stinger disappointingly it . appears this gearbox isn't built for . this type of dynamic driving . [music]. [music]. can the commodore clawback crib in the . big circle test . so this test is going to set these two . cars part because your drive system is . going to do better but it also comes . down to traction and how well the car is . actually built for this thing so let's . start here by increasing throttle . gradually and we'll see what starts. happening with that front end this is . actually holding on really nicely and as . i put a bit more throttle when i can . feel it starting to understeer there so . achieved a maximum there of 0. 9 0 which . is pretty good now what we'll do is . switch off our stability control system . just to see whether we can extract any . more out of this so let's give this . another shot . more throttle a bit more throttle okay . so point nine five there he goes so you. can get a bit more out of it if you take . control of the car yourself so we're in . the commodore now or we'll drive tick . michelin pilot super sport tick i'm . tipping this is going to murder the. stinger so we've got a v box set up . let's see how this performs everything . is in normal mode except vxr so that's . going to give us a little bit more . torque to the rear let's see how it goes . as we gradually load up the throttle in . it's holding on beautifully there . and it's seriously impressive that's . nice 1. 01 that is already much higher . there than the stinger now let's try it . with stability control switched off i . just sort of see whether there's any . more control here whether i can take . advantage of the system and a little . over to you. i go to manually select second gear here . as well is that'll give me a bit more . control over the throttle will start . piling on that speed. - is really cool you can feel that . torque vectoring system working now what . happened if i've just come i want to . stack a throttle just done the steering . okay so yes it's confirmed you're not . coming to get oversteer in the new. commodore certainly not the level that . you're going to get in the stinger 1. 0 . 3g is a pretty impressive figure from . the commodore and shows the all-wheel . drive

You may also like: